My Tiels.

[kyliesmom07]

Ok so we already know Noel is a whitefaced female like Miss Cookie but what is my Little Baby (Still working on the name thing) She appears to be a normal grey but has yellow feathers on the back of her head I will attempt to attach a picture of what I am talking about ... I say attempt cause im some times special like that and I don't mean that in a good way;)

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/Lillys06/Pets/littlebitofeverything004-1.jpg

Here is the back shot...

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/Lillys06/Pets/littlebitofeverything001.jpg

[atvchick95]

from everything i've read those are called "ticks" not the kind that get on us, dogs and cats LOL) and it means the bird is split to pied, BUT all the pictures i've seen and stuff i've read has shown White spots,. So im not sure if it's the same thing if its yellow or not though

[kyliesmom07]

see two out of her/his nest mates had the white baby and one other bird had the yellow. Also to me she dosn't look grey?

[kyliesmom07]

Oh yeah explain to me split to pied like Im a two year old and then slow it down a bit more ;)

[DeBree420]

looks to me like you may have a cinnamon bird, but it is hard to tell...
(show us a pik of him/her next to Noel to see the grey difference)
The bird is definitely split pied!

the bird will only have white spots if it is a white based bird (whiteface)
in a yellow based bird (all other tiel mutations) the pied spots will be yellow....
take Babyluv12's Ziggy as an example... he is a yellow based pied, so his 'patches' are yellow... whereas my baby Tak is a white based pied and has white 'patches'
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u12/DeBree420/budgnnstuph319.jpg

[DeBree420]

Oh yeah explain to me split to pied like Im a two year old and then slow it down a bit more ;)

split to pied means that they have only one pied gene...
when a bird is visual pied, it has 2 pied genes, one came from the mother, one from the father....
when a bird is split pied, it received a pied gene from one of the parents, but a normal gene from the other...
the normal gene is 'stronger' or 'more dominant' and so masks the pied colour from the single pied gene, the outcome is a normal looking bird, with tiny patches of white or yellow showing through in random spots(because the pied gene can not be completely hidden by the normal)...

if you breed 2 split pieds together you produce 25% visual pied birds
because the split pied have one pied (p) gene and one normal (n) gene...

pn + pn when the baby is conceived it receives a half genetic code from each parent, so the baby can receive either a p gene or a n gene from each parent...
possible outcomes are pp, pn, np, and nn
so therefore 25%normal 25%pied and because pn and np result in the same thing 50% split to pied!

[kyliesmom07]

Awesome! I am charging my batteries for my digtial and I will post pictures in a little bit BTW your babies are absolutly breath taking I have never once seen a cockatiel that color untill you posted pics of all 3 of yours..

[DeBree420]

Awesome! I am charging my batteries for my digtial and I will post pictures in a little bit BTW your babies are absolutly breath taking I have never once seen a cockatiel that color untill you posted pics of all 3 of yours..

thank you!
will wait on the pikkies with great interest!
if he is a cinnamon.. wow, what a gorgeous dark one!
in the first photos you posted of him, he looks to me like a kind of chocolate colour!

[Laura]

From my end it looks like a normal grey split to pied,

[Aly]

From my end it looks like a normal grey split to pied,

Same here. Also, I really think you have a male. Just my thoughts.

[kyliesmom07]

Ok I give why do you say that?? S/He is 14 weeks old.

[Aly]

Ok I give why do you say that?? S/He is 14 weeks old.

Just an instict. We'll see when it's older but that's my vote from now.

[Bea]

I would've said a cinnamon split to pied.

[xxxSpikexxx]

I would guess a normal spit to pied aswell. I would also guess a boy :) just a feeling.

[DeBree420]

i am so sure s/he is a cinnamon split to pied....
please post pikkies of your tiels next to each other!...

[Bea]

Actually, a photo without using flash would show a more accurate colour. Then we could see if it's a cinny or a normal. :)

[kyliesmom07]

Ok.. ok.. im going honest.. JK I am slow we had company that just finally went home!

Here are the pictures of Noel and just named Bailey<unisex name hehe..

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/Lillys06/Pets/Cockatielcolors011.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/Lillys06/Pets/Cockatielcolors010.jpg

don't mind my clothes its cage cleaning day and I am sporting my rattiest:p

[Bea]

Bailey's gotta be a cinnamon (like my Bailee! :p), he seems way too brown to be a normal.

[kyliesmom07]

See I thought he or she looked different she has a brownish tint to her or him.. I was thinking I should get another sibling from that clutch the breeder still has the other 3. I wish I could learn all the genetics stuff:S I was wondering is it the head shape that makes you all think male??

OMG I totally forgot you have a Bailey also only spelled different

[Aly]

Yup- not a regular grey- I see the difference now..so cinnamon split for pied. Very cute little birdies!

[DeBree420]

yeah he is either a cinnamon...(which is what i think) or the MOST HEAVILY suffused yellow normal i have ever seen...
but yeah Bailey is a very beautiful cinnamon bird!

[Laura]

With them side by side I can see a difference now, I see a bit more brown in the new pic what ever s/he is Bailey is very cute :D

[Sophia]

The look very different side to side :p VERY CUTE!! The brownish colour is more visible in those pictures :D

[DeBree420]

hehe that colour is like a optical illusion... where it looks like one colour... but then a different colour next to another colour..... if that made any sense whatsoever....

i have spent a lot of time in he last 6 months analysing possible cinnamon tiels....
trying to find Cinns perfect mate... :p

[kyliesmom07]

I don't blame you Cinn is just adorable.. I wish I could find a Tiel in those colors like I stated before I haven't ever seen any the color of yours:( maybe one day I will find one.. Where did you get your little ones from??

[DeBree420]

well i live close to the most Easterly point of Australia...
i got my first baby, Cinnamaroll from the pet shop i work at sometimes... i kept an eye on the tiels there and when she came in it was like love at first sight! she had the right genetic colour, and the personality to match!
the other 3 i chose from an aviary of baby tiels in another shop...
Trying to chose the most 'boyish' ones....
i didnt worry too much about personality this time, cos a bad personality is just a good one with work ;)
the baby tiels came from 3 different breeders, but were hand fed by the pet shop owners wife...
so even if i end up with 2 pairs... only Cinnamaroll, and her chosen mate will be allowed to breed, as i just dont know if the 3 new babys are related...
so that means, regardless, i will want to get 2 more tiels eventually...