Baby/Trill

[alija]

Poor wee soul didn't make it through the night. I really think that another couple of weeks with its parents and it would have been fine. Yes it was eating when I brought it home, and I just wasn't quick enough to realise it wasn't taking enough in. But another couple of weeks with its parents would have just been enough to see it safe.

RIP little baby.:tiel6:

[SteveandRonnie]

sorry for your loss. so what happened? you bought him from a breeder but you suspect they sold him too soon?

[xoxsarahxox]

Oh no! Im so sorry to hear that :(

[lperry82]

Im so sorry for your loss how old was s/he :(, I think you should get in touch where you got him/her from as it might happen to the others if any

[alija]

I bought the baby on Friday (see my thread in cockatiel talk...question please re underage baby) yesterday, Sunday where I am, I posted in cockatiel health with concerns on how he/she was going, and a vet trip was on the game plan for this morning. Unfortunately it wasn't to be. I have been back in to where I bought the baby and let them know and I now have a 'credit' there for another bird when we are ready for another one, IF we get another one.

I think essentially this baby was the youngest in the group and should really have been left with its parents just a bit longer although from what the woman said mother had already lost interest as she had laid a new clutch. Just very sad really :(

[lperry82]

If the mother lost interest then the woman should of fed the baby rather then selling him/her untill the baby was ready

[Belinda]

Gee this makes me mad, this was a petstore right?

You tried to do the right thing by adopting it, but why didn't someone at the petstore take some initiative? The bird was obviously unweaned to you and it shouldn't have been for sale. I would have been tempted to tell them to use the credit for staff education and training in animal husbandry.

You did your best though... it just sounds like it was a bit too late for him/her. Pet stores can be hideous places for babies.

[alija]

Apparently the person who originally owned the birds lives next door to the woman who owns the store. The woman who owned the store told me that when mother bird threw all the older babies out she suggested to the owner that she put a heap of millet down for the older babies until they were eating. Then they could go into the shop. I did a couple of times say that our baby had really been too young and was obviously the last egg to hatch in that particular clutch.

What was interesting to me though was when the young man I first encountered went through to find the owner, I am sure I heard him say 'we've had another one'.

Anyway what's done is done. Our poor baby is no longer with us and if we go back for another bird it will not be from the same babies.

I have to repeat what I said in my original post when we first brought this baby home. I have regularly bought birds from this store. My canary (who recently died of old age) came from them and many (although not all) of my budgies came from them, and until now I have never had any problems with unhealthy birds.

This, I suspect, was very much a case of the owner wanting rid of the birds because there were more coming on. Ignorance pure and simple. No excuse in my book, and maybe with this experience the shop owner will learn a valuable lesson as well.

We can only hope.

[alija]

Apparently the person who originally owned the birds lives next door to the woman who owns the store. The woman who owned the store told me that when mother bird threw all the older babies out she suggested to the owner that she put a heap of millet down for the older babies until they were eating. Then they could go into the shop. I did a couple of times say that our baby had really been too young and was obviously the last egg to hatch in that particular clutch.

What was interesting to me though was when the young man I first encountered went through to find the owner, I am sure I heard him say 'we've had another one'.

Anyway what's done is done. Our poor baby is no longer with us and if we go back for another bird it will not be from the same babies.

I have to repeat what I said in my original post when we first brought this baby home. I have regularly bought birds from this store. My canary (who recently died of old age) came from them and many (although not all) of my budgies came from them, and until now I have never had any problems with unhealthy birds.

This, I suspect, was very much a case of the owner wanting rid of the birds because there were more coming on. Ignorance pure and simple. No excuse in my book, and maybe with this experience the shop owner will learn a valuable lesson as well.

We can only hope.

[roxy culver]

I want to give my condolences and ask...where was the father bird? Father's are the ones that show the babies how to eat and mainly take care and feed them once they leave the nest. The mother really has no responsibility in this although some will still help out occasionally. With my last clutch, the two dads (weird situation) did most of the out of cage feeding. They would feed the babies anywhere it didn't matter. Mom would only feed them if they were in the cage otherwise she ran from them. So really, even if mom was ready for another clutch, dad wasn't done with them yet and I'm sorry that you had to face the consequences of this. RIP little guy.

[Jess]

This breeder and pet shop need taking to task, I guess you have buried the body? If not it would be a good idea to do a post mortem on this bird to find the cause of death, could have been down to a disease or because the baby was unweaned either isn't good news for the breeder or petshop if you report them. I think the pet shop and breeder need reporting/investgating, this could easily happen again otherwise. Do you have the equivilant to the RSPCA where you are and trading standards? Also if I were you I'd demand a full refund as well and don't give them any more business. I won't shop in any place that sells birds, I don't agree with it.

[alija]

Ofcourse the body is buried. I have two cats, and a dog as well as a 9yr old boy. Even without the other animals just having a child in the house means any deaths are dealt with sensitively but sensibly. I cannot have a body stored anywhere.

As for the petshop, as I have already said this incident is an unusual event for them. I have used them for years. I suspect that the 'another one' I mentioned previously was from this same group from the same breeder. I am sure that the owner of the shop will have learned from this event.

As far as the SPCA here....the conditions of caged birds would have to be extremely bad for them to even rate a half mention. I do not believe in this instance that actual living conditions in their 'home' cage were a disaster. What happened would have been ignorance of the appropriate age to bring the babies away from their parents.

Please let's not turn this into a 'you must report this' angry rant. I am positive that on the whole this particular shop treats their birds well and that this situation will not be repeated.

My son and I were aware that this particular baby might be a little young to be away from its parents, it is one of the reasons we wanted to 'rescue' it. We did not however realise just how much too young it was, and I was too slow to realise that it wasn't getting what it needed to survive. By the time I was trying to give it sustenance from a dropper it was already too late.

You are welcome to your anger about the welfare of petshop animals, in many cases I am sure it has been warranted. Please just don't pour it out on this thread.

We lost our baby, the shop has been informed, and life goes on because it must.

[Jess]

The pet shop is a business at the end of the day they will do what they think they can get away with. They must have realised the baby was ill not right or unweaned, if they didn't then it shows they have a pretty poor knowledge of birds.
The victim here is the bird that lost his life, fly free little one X

[WereAllMadHere]

I'm so sorry for your loss, those people should be ashamed!

RIP little one

[pache11]

I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you will get another tiel. They are wonderful companions.

I purchased a different tiel before Kugel. He was a cinnamon that would chirp whenever I came near the cage and try to jump on me from a foot or two away. He was weaned and looked healthy, but would often reguritate is food for no apparent reason. I debated for a few days on whether or not I would try to take him home and raise him. The owner/breeder said I could take him and would pay for any vet services. I couldn't resist this little guys temperment and had him boxed for the ride home. As I pulled into the driveway I heard him wheezing inside the box. I quickly removed him from the box, but it was already too late. He had aspirated food into his lungs and died in my hands. I second guessed myself for along time after that and carried that weight too long. I contacted the owner and he said when I ready I could have any other tiel or a refund. I picked Kugel about a week later and I have never regretted that decision. It helped with the pain and he has become a wonderful companion and friend. He will be 21 on April 1st and I am thankfull of the time we spend together. The vet believes he could live to be in his late 20s because he is still healthy and active.