View Full Version : Cookie and Bailee - new pics 2/12
You read right!! :D Cookie seems to be all better and yesterday i put the nest box up. Bailee's been living with her for over a week now, but they haven't been mating. I can just see Bailee thinking (shocking i know) "ohhh, how silly do you think i am mum? Last time i made a move you moved me out!" :p I think the nest box will get them going though, they're both extremely excited.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/October052008-birds012Custom.jpg
Bit blurry, but there is a power struggle for nest box rights. Bailee likes to have a couple of days to get things in order before letting Cookie move in. Cookie thinks that's totally unnecessary. ;)
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I modified the nest box a bit so it would fit on the front instead of having to go in a side door. It's easier for me to check now, not to mention i think it's more logical to have a perch on the front of it than a little box:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Only/March72008-fidsandsweeney021Custom.jpg
birdieness
10-04-2008, 07:34 PM
Good Luck Bea. Glad to hear Cookie is doing much better.
My breeder is sending me little hints towards skittles lol. With all these lovely males that would create rainbow babies with skittles.
Yes i to have found the nest box doors are a pain and useless but i personally could never cut the bars of my cage lol. (if you cut them. i can't really tell
Yes i to have found the nest box doors are a pain and useless but i personally could never cut the bars of my cage lol.
I would never do that either, not when the cage cost $150 to start with. I'd have to have rocks in my head. :p
birdieness
10-04-2008, 07:38 PM
How did you do it then? Slide up doors are all i can think of and my cages personally don't have them besides skittles new cage.
kimmikefids
10-04-2008, 07:47 PM
woohoo can't wait to see little eggies!!!! good luck with it...hope it all goes smoothly and i look forward to seeing it all happen!!!
sweetrsue
10-04-2008, 08:01 PM
It won't be long now!
Solace.
10-04-2008, 08:02 PM
So Gracie has Snickers company? :p
How exciting, hope to see some eggs soon and then some fluff balls. :D
How did you do it then? Slide up doors are all i can think of and my cages personally don't have them besides skittles new cage.
My cages all have one big swing out door, two small swing out breeder doors and four sliding food bowl doors (which i don't use). I used one of the sliding doors for the nest box this time. It's really good because it means that the nest box is at a level where i can easily check and, of course, take photos. :p
So Gracie has Snickers company? :p
She's been living with him full time for a couple of months. They sleep on a swing together. :love:
sweetrsue
10-04-2008, 08:05 PM
It looks like the perfect setup.
birdieness
10-04-2008, 08:07 PM
Ahh very good. There are some genes i don't think that should be passed along and that is skittles, as much as i love her she's Evil. Her main goal in life is to pierce my upper ear.
Very excited to see some bubs and lots of pictures
Hehe, well Bailee's got the stupid gene which has proven to pass to his sons. :p But there's nothing wrong with a stupid tiel, they're amusing.
sweetrsue
10-04-2008, 08:48 PM
I think it's called the dork factor!
kimmikefids
10-04-2008, 09:42 PM
ah but is the dork factor dominant or recessive? :p it seems dominant in all mine :rofl: but they are also regularly called "you crazy bird".....everytime i think about them i have to laugh....they make life so interesting......and when they love you...wow....its just like one of the best feelings in the world....i would imagine seeing ur babies have babies would be a very rewarding feeling.....get to it cookie and bailee.....us tiel addicts need new babies to go all mushy for !!!!
I just hope they turn out a bit friendlier than Snickyboo. My friend is hoping for a male baby of mine, so fingers crossed they have one. :D
The action is starting! :D Bailee decided that it was worth the risk of being evicted again and mated with Cookie. Both are in and out of the nest box all day. I expect we'll be seeing eggs in a week or so.
kimmikefids
10-05-2008, 08:50 PM
woohoo!!! go for it bailee!!! hahaha
Solace.
10-05-2008, 09:51 PM
Yay! I can't wait to see pics of eggs and fluff balls. :D
Gracie's lucky to have Snickers company, he's soo cute.
sweetrsue
10-06-2008, 01:02 AM
Congrats! Keep us posted!
spike's mom
10-06-2008, 04:54 AM
good news babies on the way i just love those sweet little baby faces can't wait for a few of my own. in a year or so
huskymom
10-06-2008, 05:29 PM
YAY!!. more baileeīs.... I love his dorkiness.. LOL...
I canīt wait to see what they make up his time.. ;)
xxxSpikexxx
10-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Yeah baby pictures :D Since Iam not that good with genetics what kind of babies can Cookie and Bailee have? I know pied since Snickers is a pied.
They can have normal or pied males, and cinnamon, cinnamon pied and (this i'm quite sure of but not certain) lutino girls. :)
huskymom
10-07-2008, 05:04 PM
we want some girls now Bailee... you got your first born a son now it a girl turn.. ;).. and maybe a few of both...
sweetrsue
10-07-2008, 06:17 PM
I looked thru your Gallery and found a pic of Bailees parents. One of them looks like a Lutino. So yes Bailee would be split for Lutino and statistically half of you female offspring should be Lutinos. Half your boys will be split for it and all your babies will be split for Whiteface. I'm also sure all your babies will be beautiful...dork factor or not.
tielfan
10-07-2008, 07:07 PM
I just hope they turn out a bit friendlier than Snickyboo.
A little bit of handfeeding can be very useful for that! I co-parented my chicks, meaning that I handfed them once or twice a day starting when they were 2 to 3 weeks old, and otherwise left them with the parents. They turned out to be quite friendly. Just about all of them went through a "touch me not" phase a while after they fledged, but they got over it without much trouble.
huskymom
10-07-2008, 07:08 PM
so I looked too.. and for Bailee to be cinnamon mom would have been cinnamon too so the lutino is the mom which is also cinnamon.. and dad is the pied one..
baileeīs mom : cinnamon lutino
dad: pied split cinnamon
bailee: cinnamon pied split lutino
cookie: whiteface split pied
snickers: pied split whiteface and cinnamon and maybe lutino
I'm definitely hoping for at least one boy, my friend wants a boy from me to eventually pair with her female pied. :D
A little bit of handfeeding can be very useful for that! I co-parented my chicks, meaning that I handfed them once or twice a day starting when they were 2 to 3 weeks old, and otherwise left them with the parents. They turned out to be quite friendly. Just about all of them went through a "touch me not" phase a while after they fledged, but they got over it without much trouble.
I did the same for Snickers, for a while i was having to give him a couple of feeds a day. And he got more cuddles than i can count. He was a very friendly baby and then something just snapped in his head.
sweetrsue
10-07-2008, 08:27 PM
Maybe he's just resents the fact that he is not your one and only.
tielfan
10-08-2008, 08:52 PM
He was a very friendly baby and then something just snapped in his head.
How old is he now? My chicks went through a "touch me not" phase but by the time they were three or four months old I was able to persuade them to accept head pets again. Squeebis is a rebel and I still have to re-acquaint him with the notion every now and then.
The technique that seems to work best is feeding them treats from my fingertips. Pinch the treat between the thumb and middle finger, and after they've had a few bites to mellow them out I start trying to touch the head/neck with my index finger while they're taking the treat. It might take a few sessions, but after a while they give in to the joys of the petting finger.
He got increasingly less cuddly from when he fledged until he just completely started rejecting cuddles, he's about 6 months old now.
allen
10-08-2008, 11:12 PM
were all looking for baby pics from you bea
tielfan
10-09-2008, 07:17 PM
He got increasingly less cuddly from when he fledged until he just completely started rejecting cuddles, he's about 6 months old now.
It's worthwhile trying a little food bribery to see where that gets you. Squeebis is also six months old now and sometimes goes on strike against head petting, but so far I've been able to win him back although sometimes it takes a few days. Last night after being on strike for a week or two he went from looking extremely annoyed to begging for petting to getting mad if I tried to pet anyone else. I ended up having to pet two birds at the same time to keep up with demand! Then today he was back to being a brat again but it didn't take long to change his mind.
allen
10-10-2008, 09:00 PM
you no bea this means the chicks will be ready for christmas
Egg #1 arrived this evening. :D I've been expecting it since yesterday, Cookie started staying in the nest box and not wanting to come out for cuddles in the evening. This morning i could definitely see the tell tale swollen bottom, so it was only a matter of time.
Solace.
10-12-2008, 05:14 AM
Excellent! Hoping for more eggs and then fluff balls. I can't wait to see pics. :D :clap:
kimmikefids
10-12-2008, 07:10 AM
yayyyyyyyyyy!!!! now the wait....ah think i'll go insane when the time comes when we breed waiting for the little angels!!! i'll prolly go insane waiting for yours!!! oh wait...too late...im insane already...maybe insaner?
birdieness
10-12-2008, 08:15 AM
W00t Gratz! Soon enough you'll have pick little bubs again.
sweetrsue
10-12-2008, 09:32 AM
That's great! I can't wait to see what develops!
allen
10-12-2008, 12:47 PM
congrats that means they will be ready and weaned bye christmas if they wean the normal time
Which will hopefully make it easier to find homes for the little bubs. :D My friend is getting one, providing Cookie and Bailee don't mysteriously have all girls.
Bailee's so "special". Cookie and Bailee have settled right back into their normal routine. Cookie sits in the evenings and nights, and Bailee takes over in the morning while Cookie eats and relaxes. During Cookie's out time (which is when i'm doing seed, water and veggies for the birds) i like to get her out to sit on my shoulder and have some quick cuddles. She likes this. Bailee sits on the egg and then realises that Cookie is missing. So then he's running back and forward from the nest box trying to figure out whether it's more important to egg sit or to call desperately for his girl. :p He has no issues whatsoever coming out at night to play with me and the other birds though, leaving poor Cookie behind with her egg.
Kfontan
10-13-2008, 09:16 AM
Which will hopefully make it easier to find homes for the little bubs. :D My friend is getting one, providing Cookie and Bailee don't mysteriously have all girls.
Bailee's so "special". Cookie and Bailee have settled right back into their normal routine. Cookie sits in the evenings and nights, and Bailee takes over in the morning while Cookie eats and relaxes. During Cookie's out time (which is when i'm doing seed, water and veggies for the birds) i like to get her out to sit on my shoulder and have some quick cuddles. She likes this. Bailee sits on the egg and then realises that Cookie is missing. So then he's running back and forward from the nest box trying to figure out whether it's more important to egg sit or to call desperately for his girl. :p He has no issues whatsoever coming out at night to play with me and the other birds though, leaving poor Cookie behind with her egg.
That's great Bea. I have a question. Does this mean that Bailee has stopped the habit of overpreening and plucking Cookie? If so, do you think he has out grown that habit?
Just curious.
huskymom
10-13-2008, 04:43 PM
I think Iīll go "insaner" too...;) LOL
how exciting!!
That's great Bea. I have a question. Does this mean that Bailee has stopped the habit of overpreening and plucking Cookie? If so, do you think he has out grown that habit?
He hasn't plucked her for quite a while now, so we will see how he goes this time around. :)
allen
10-13-2008, 04:50 PM
so sounds like we have three of us with tiel eggs
PtsRPpl2
10-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Aw, that is so sweet!! How cute they are with each other!! Can't wait till you have new babies and new pics to share!!
tielfan
10-13-2008, 10:59 PM
providing Cookie and Bailee don't mysteriously have all girls.
That could happen! Females are biologically stronger than males (this applies to both humans and cockatiels), and tiels can somehow control the sex of the chicks so they produce more females in times of stress and more males when the living is easy. Cookie was badly injured not too long ago so that might count as a time of stress for her.
Buster and Shodu's first clutch had four males and two females. The second clutch had four chicks - all female! I don't know the reason but I can think of two possibilities: (1) Shodu had already gone through the strain of producing the first clutch and maybe wasn't as strong the second time around, and (2) the weather was a lot hotter when the second clutch was produced, which may have been a 'beware' sign to the parents. Of course it's also possible that it was just pure random chance.
Cookie laid her second egg today! :D Both her and Bailee are doing a lovely job sitting on them. Bailee let me have Cookie out for 20 mins of snuggles this afternoon which was nice, i could tell that Cookie was glad to get out and have some time away from the cage.
sweetrsue
10-14-2008, 01:38 AM
They sound like good parents! So nice to still have your little Cookie to snuggle too! Some of them get ill tempered when sitting.
They sound like good parents! So nice to still have your little Cookie to snuggle too! Some of them get ill tempered when sitting.
Both mine are major snuggle bugs. They're protective of their eggs and nest, but once they know the other is taking care of things they pace and call to let me know it's time for cuddles. Bailee would be lost without his daily smooch attack. :p He's such a mummy's boy!
Plukie
10-14-2008, 02:50 AM
Now, how in the world did I miss this!!!! I didn't realise that you were breeding again, I know you said you were going to and then Cookie had her accident. So pleased all is going well and I'm looking forward to a daily report!
kimmikefids
10-14-2008, 04:45 AM
yayyyyyy 2 eggs now...so exciting.....Cookie is such a good clever girl and Bailee sounds like he's being a ggood daddy and boyfriend....hmm or should that be husband.....so glad all is going well and that they still love their snuggles
allen
10-14-2008, 08:20 AM
we won,t have a race as to who,s will hatch first as as mine one pair is due to start this weekend or bye monday
Third egg was laid today! :D
allen
10-15-2008, 10:36 PM
thats great
kimmikefids
10-15-2008, 10:36 PM
hooray!!! i wonder how many she will lay....im getting all excited about watching them grow!!!! u have to post pics to excess ok??? lol....i know thats probably a stupid request as im sure u will anyway but im such a sucker for baby tiels!!!.....they are so sweet and cute and amazing!! give Cookie and Bailee and cuddle from me!!!
You'll get a ton of pics! :D I want to be able to give a selection of baby photos to all the future owners of my babies, plus i love taking photos of babies, they're so cute!
kimmikefids
10-15-2008, 11:32 PM
thats awesome......i know after squirt its so nice to see them grow from birth...all the other birds we've had have been store bought so the past isn't known.....it wonderful to see him or her grow new feathers and become the little tiel you bring home!! we can't wait to see our next little baby from allen developing!! and im so sure cookie and bailee will have such gorgeous babies i can't wait!!!!
sweetrsue
10-15-2008, 11:41 PM
That's so exciting! It's silly that eggs still excite me...well...simple minds.
kimmikefids
10-15-2008, 11:49 PM
nothing simple bout getting excited about eggies!!
sweetrsue
10-16-2008, 12:00 AM
I guess there's really nothing simple about eggs. A whole new life in a little shell.
kimmikefids
10-16-2008, 12:38 AM
not at all....and you can't be too simple because you recognise the fact a baby tiel will hatch!!!:p
Danielle
10-16-2008, 01:16 AM
How exciting! I can't wait to see the photos of the eggs and the babies.
Are you going to candle the eggs when they're old enough?
Solace.
10-16-2008, 01:19 AM
Awesome and so exciting, I can't wait for pics.
Are you going to candle the eggs when they're old enough?
I might, i usually don't like interfering.
Danielle
10-16-2008, 07:03 AM
I can understand that. It's not like you really have to wait that long to see if they're going to hatch, anyway.
My thoughts exactly. I'm also a bit funny about being disappointed. I'll avoid asking a question in case the answer's no, i avoid candling eggs in case they're clear. :p
huskymom
10-16-2008, 11:51 AM
I know... itīs exciting the expectation.. and to get a clear one.. wel... just is frustrating...
letīs hope you get many baby tiels...
congrats Cooks and Bails
allen
10-16-2008, 03:22 PM
hey bea where are the egg pics
Danielle
10-16-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm the same, I'd be awfully disappointed if I knew ahead of time that the egg wasn't going to hatch. I'd rather wait and see. It's more exciting that way anyway!
hey bea where are the egg pics
I figured that we all know what eggs look like. I don't want to bother Cookie and Bailee unnecessarily, but i will get a photo when Cookie's finished laying. :)
atvchick95
10-17-2008, 01:51 AM
I can understand that. It's not like you really have to wait that long to see if they're going to hatch, anyway.
this is true, but at the same time it feels like a life time of waiting (or it may just be me because i'm impatient)
but i've learned with my budgies, Just because we candle them and it looks infertile LEAVE IT because most likely it isn't!
I've ran into this issue many times (with my tiel eggs as well) we've candled them when it was time and several days after and they were the classic "infertile" egg yet they hatched So I pretty much gave up candling all together and now its in 24 days if no eggs hatched they won't hatch (I know its 18-21 but i've had them hatch several days later then they should of as well) along with Never hatching but a baby inside :(
Danielle
10-17-2008, 02:29 AM
I do hate the waiting - I'm generally a very impatient person - but in this case I think I'd want to wait and see rather than feel disappointed ahead of time.
That said, I'm currently waiting on a little platinum whiteface pearl girl and the wait is driving me nuts. They're only just fledging so it's going to be a while.
kimmikefids
10-17-2008, 05:02 AM
its hard waiting.....we are waiting on allen's tiel's eggs as our next baby will be in the midst of them as well as waiting for Bea's so its double the suspense!!!
Actually, school keeps me so busy that time just flies past ridiculously fast. It's coming up to a week since Cookie laid the first egg! :D
kimmikefids
10-17-2008, 07:09 AM
how exciting!!! we'll all be on edge for u Bea...u can take it easy and enjoy lol
allen
10-17-2008, 08:52 AM
i have had some hatch at 25 days old i had one hatch at 17 days old
It would be totally feasible for eggs to hatch a bit late, because it would depend on when the hen started sitting properly. Cookie and Bailee like to sit from the first moment. :)
sweetrsue
10-17-2008, 11:39 AM
They can surprise you. I always count on a 21 day hatch. I leave them alone for the 3 days prior to hatch days. One time I went to check upon hearing peeps expecting that the first one had hatched and there were 3.
allen
10-17-2008, 11:42 AM
once i had 2 hatch in 1 day
I woke up to another egg. I usually don't check until the afternoon because Cookie's been laying all the other eggs at about 1pm. But egg 4 must have come late last night or very early this morning. I'm thinking early this morning, because Bailee had taken on egg duty earlier than usual this morning - making me think Cookie came out to refuel. I'm going to take her for a shower with me in a minute. :D
sweetrsue
10-17-2008, 07:18 PM
Mine always love their baths when they're sitting. I bet she'll love it.
kimmikefids
10-17-2008, 09:08 PM
yay number 4 how exciting!!! how many did they lay when they had snickers? im just curious
They had 5 eggs last time, 2 were fertile but Snickers older sibling wasn't strong enough to make it out of the egg.
I've put a dish of water on the bottom of the cage, and when i last walked in Bailee was laying in it making his belly wet. :p I'll be doing everything i can to keep humidity up to make it easier for the eggs to hatch when the time comes.
sweetrsue
10-18-2008, 10:24 AM
It sounds like they are doing that too!
xxxSpikexxx
10-18-2008, 02:02 PM
How exciting 4 little eggs I can't wait to see if they all hatch :)
I think four is Cookie's magic number this time around, and two look nice and white which was typical of the fertile eggs last time. The other two are probably not old enough to say for sure yet, we could get lucky and have four fertile eggs!
Solace.
10-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Yay! I'm crossing my fingers that all 4 are fertile, go Cookie! :D
sweetrsue
10-20-2008, 01:14 AM
Good for Cookie! Good for you too Bea!
Danielle
10-20-2008, 05:19 AM
Ooh, that would be great. Here's hoping!
kimmikefids
10-20-2008, 06:15 AM
how exciting!!! most definately crossing my fingers they are all fertile!!! now the big countdown!!
Plukie
10-20-2008, 06:19 AM
Ooooo, it's exciting all over again.......now the waiting game starts!
allen
10-20-2008, 07:17 AM
thats great and if all 4 are fertile then the chicks will be ready for christmas
Kfontan
10-20-2008, 12:26 PM
Wow! It's just like yesterday that Cookie was laying her first clutch. :)
By the way, how is Snickers handling all of this?
Does he understand the responsibilities of being a big brother? :p
huskymom
10-20-2008, 02:38 PM
oh yay!!...
feathers crossed to all 4 fertile healthy eggs... ;)
By the way, how is Snickers handling all of this?
Does he understand the responsibilities of being a big brother? :p
Snickers doesn't like anyone so it makes no difference to him if Cookie and Bailee are in their cage more than usual. He seems to really like mating sounds though, because he spends an excessive amount of time mimicking them.
allen
10-20-2008, 05:01 PM
now that is cute
kimmikefids
10-20-2008, 05:47 PM
lol monkey see monkey do
allen
10-21-2008, 11:29 PM
when are the eggs due to hatch
Plukie
10-22-2008, 05:45 AM
thats great and if all 4 are fertile then the chicks will be ready for christmas
I prefer turkey myself!!;):p
huskymom
10-22-2008, 01:29 PM
I canīt wait to see baby tiels pics... hoping to see a wide variety this time... who am I kidding?.. hoping to see whatever but babies are sooo cute!!!
when are the eggs due to hatch
First one should hatch about the 2nd November. :) All four eggs look the same now, so i'm hoping they're all fertile and not all infertile, lol! :p Cookie and Bailee are doing a great job at keeping the eggs warm. If Bailee forgets that he's on egg duty then Cookie is quick to jump in until he realises and goes back to the eggs.
allen
10-23-2008, 12:09 AM
thats a great mom
huskymom
10-23-2008, 12:52 PM
yay... letīs keep positive and hope for 4 FERTILE lil eggies.. yay!!
Kfontan
10-24-2008, 03:20 PM
Snickers doesn't like anyone so it makes no difference to him if Cookie and Bailee are in their cage more than usual.
What is with him? Is it a phase? He was such an affectionate little guy.
First one should hatch about the 2nd November. :) All four eggs look the same now, so i'm hoping they're all fertile and not all infertile, lol! :p Cookie and Bailee are doing a great job at keeping the eggs warm. If Bailee forgets that he's on egg duty then Cookie is quick to jump in until he realises and goes back to the eggs.
Boy, they sound like they have got a system down. :) They have matured since the first clutch. Haven't they?
I would love to see them doting over the eggs. It has to be cute.:love:
What is with him? Is it a phase? He was such an affectionate little guy.
I think he's just broken, i love him anyway and i know that means he is meant to stay with me. Most people with a little brat like Snickers would just keep him in a cage 24/7. Last night i was ready to strangle him. He flew over to dad and sat on his shoulder for about 45 mins playing with his collar. <_< He would never do that with me.
I'll hopefully get some photos of Cookie and Bailee on nest box duty. I'm trying to bug them as little as possible, but they're very tolerant of me so i'm sure they won't mind. It's only a week until the first egg is due to hatch. :D
While i was walking today i figured out that by the time the babies are 2 weeks old i'll be mostly finished school for the year, so i plan to hand rear the bubs. :D It'll make them easier to sell, plus it's something i've always wanted to do (i've only assisted when necessary in the past).
sweetrsue
10-25-2008, 09:40 PM
That's cool! I usually wait 'till 3 weeks. that works fine, They get more benefit from being parent fed and they're down to 4 feedings a day. Some people say 3 but I do breakfast, lunch, dinner and before you go to bed at night.
allen
10-25-2008, 09:53 PM
i usually pull 1 chick at a time every 2-3 days
Solace.
10-25-2008, 09:53 PM
That's a great idea! :D
When they're raised by their parents, aren't they a bit harder to tame compared to when you hand rear them yourself? I found it so easy to tame my 3 babies, and although all my 'tiels apart from Squeak are tame, they seem to not want your company much where as the babies are wanting your attention and company 24/7. Funny that. :lol:
allen
10-25-2008, 09:56 PM
when you hand feed or hand raise bye the time they are weaned they are very tame and need no taming at all
sweetrsue
10-25-2008, 09:56 PM
If you pull at 3 weeks they get both the benefit from the parents and the benefit from being hand fed. If you wait too long tho it's hard for them to take to the spoon.
I'll wait and see how well they grow before hand rearing. Snickers was slow and at two weeks he was a bit under developed, but Cookie was sick while raising him so that's not so surprising.
I just candled the eggs, i'm such a sucker for temptation. They're all nice and veiny but a couple look odd in other ways. I feel sure that there'll be some babies though, if not four. :)
Solace.
10-25-2008, 10:35 PM
LOL You couldn't resist huh! (I don't blame you) :p
Great to hear there's some veins showing though, that's so awesome. :D :excited:
allen
10-25-2008, 10:38 PM
yeehaa i win the bet between me and my breeder she bet you would not candle them i bet you would the bet was 1 free bird from the next clutch
yeehaa i win the bet between me and my breeder she bet you would not candle them i bet you would the bet was 1 free bird from the next clutch
LOL!! You have a slightly unfair advantage in that you hear tales of my failure to resist temptation in the posts here, and your breeder doesn't. :p
allen
10-25-2008, 10:43 PM
well i would never hold her to the bet i new it was unfair
bigmikey36
10-26-2008, 12:07 AM
lol is that what poker players call a sucker bet??? You are a true man of character Allen and you don't see that very often anymore
Mikey
Danielle
10-26-2008, 12:11 AM
Well, Bea, you just totally destroyed my confidence that if I breed in a couple of years I'll be able to resist :p
sweetrsue
10-26-2008, 12:16 AM
For the first time I'm resisting. The pair that got off their eggs due to my candling...well maybe it was the "Oh Goody" I uttered. They got back to work after a couple of weeks and are now on 5 eggs. I will not, will not touch those eggs. three are still looking yellow and two look solid white from just a peek! I'm thinking so far I have two fertile. But I'm NOT going to pick them up. The other three are young yet. You can do it Rouille!
Danielle
10-26-2008, 12:26 AM
Hopefully my fear of disturbing them will win over my curiosity.
Then again, knowing my luck Harley and the hen will end up hating each other and she'll be off flashing her butt at Quinn.
Only a few more days to wait now. :D Cookie's been very irritable at night when i go to bed. When i turn off the light there's a fair bit of hissing and banging the side of the nest box. I think Bailee upsets her by sitting on the perch at the entrance. :rolleyes:
Danielle
10-29-2008, 04:47 AM
Expectant mothers, you've got to love them.
Maybe we won't be waiting till the weekend! I just checked on Cookie and Bailee in the nest box (to see if Bailee wanted to come out for cuddles tonight) and i'm certain i heard an egg cheeping! Looks like someone can't wait to greet the world.
Danielle
10-29-2008, 05:20 AM
Ooh, congratulations to the three of you! I can't wait to hear how it goes.
huskymom
10-29-2008, 01:36 PM
canīt wait.. come on baby.. we are all waiting for you too!!
sweetrsue
10-29-2008, 01:37 PM
Oh Wow! Now that is exciting.
I'm waiting for Bailee to take over egg duty. Cookie sits tight and glares at me when i peek, but Bailee actually lets me take a look. :p The egg is still cheeping this morning, but i have no idea if the egg is starting to crack or if there's even a chick already.
huskymom
10-29-2008, 05:32 PM
canīt wait for shift change!!!...
allen
10-29-2008, 05:47 PM
you and me both huskymom
One of the eggs, possibly the one that's been cheeping is looking discoloured. Not a good thing i think... but we'll wait and see.
kimmikefids
10-30-2008, 02:54 AM
crossing my fingers all works out Bea
The little egg is still cheeping, so if it is the icky looking egg he's clearly still alive. Cookie and Bailee have both been in the nest together most of the day which is unusual - think they know something's happening?
sweetrsue
10-30-2008, 10:39 AM
That's not unusual for an egg about to hatch. It can't be much longer!
huskymom
10-30-2008, 01:42 PM
come on baby tiel.. we want to meet you!!... and I bet mommy and daddy too.. hence they are both with you now... ;)
xxxSpikexxx
10-30-2008, 03:26 PM
How exciting :) I hope he gets out of the egg alright.
Still no chick and i haven't heard any cheeping this morning. Still a case of wait and see...
sweetrsue
10-30-2008, 07:26 PM
Have you been able to look at the egg?
I haven't touched it but i have seen it. There aren't any obvious cracks, maybe some dints at the air sac end though.
sweetrsue
10-30-2008, 07:42 PM
I would be tempted to assist the little guy.
I'm worried though that i'm wrong about which egg it is, and also that it's too early for it to be hatching at all. I wouldn't want to stuff up one of the later eggs if i've guessed wrong.
sweetrsue
10-30-2008, 07:58 PM
Yea you're right. If you can't be sure which egg it is best to leave it alone.
Solace.
10-30-2008, 10:19 PM
I hope s/he will hatch soon.
Oh and I was going to say this in another thread but I thought I wouldn't I love your new siggy Bea.
:D Thanks!! I've been meaning to make a rubik's themed one for a while now - since i got the photos of Cookie perching on it.
Still no chicky cheeping from the nest box. It's extremely hard to resist the urge to check every 5 mins. :p
sweetrsue
10-30-2008, 10:33 PM
I would feel the same way. I don't know how you can stand the wait.
A second egg is looking discoloured now, i'm not sure what's going on...
sweetrsue
10-30-2008, 11:33 PM
Eggs will discolor just before hatching sometimes. Lets hope that's what it is. They're on
schedule anyway!
Amy1569
10-31-2008, 08:32 AM
Ok ....I'm hooked on the baby hatching 'frenzy'.....:)....
It's like Desperate Housewives....or Sopranos or something.....lol
What's the news this morning? Anything?
Solace.
10-31-2008, 08:50 AM
The siggy looks perfect. :p
Eggs will discolor just before hatching sometimes. Lets hope that's what it is. They're on
schedule anyway!
Well there you go! so the first chick should be hatching very soon, woot. :excited:
No chicks still, hopefully i'll wake up to some noisy cheeping!
Solace.
10-31-2008, 06:39 PM
Any cheeping this morning? :D
We have a cheeping egg again. Fingers crossed it's the original cheeper and it's going to hatch right on schedule (today/tomorrow). :) I'll post a couple of photos of Cookie and Bailee on egg duty in a moment.
Solace.
11-01-2008, 03:13 AM
That's great, what a relief that would be! Got my fingers crossed for you's!
Can't wait to see some photos too. :D
Couple of pics
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/November12008-CoBa001Custom.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/November12008-CoBa003Custom.jpg
Plukie
11-01-2008, 04:06 AM
Awww, what cute photos!! I hope all goes well and the cheeper soon hatches!
allen
11-01-2008, 07:46 AM
hiickee chickee we want chickee
ally with fids
11-01-2008, 10:19 AM
ANY BABY yet. its nov 1 here and prob the 2end there! i wanna see how many hatch!
Still got a cheeping egg, no babies though.
xxxSpikexxx
11-01-2008, 07:48 PM
Come on little cheeper you can do it
sweetrsue
11-01-2008, 07:57 PM
This must be killing you!
This must be killing you!
That would be an understatement! :p
Solace.
11-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Is the cheeper due to hatch today or was it yesterday?
Hopefully s/he will come out of the egg today sometime, surely the cheeping is a good sign that you know it's alright, but just not wanting to come out as of yet. What happens if it doesn't hatch today? are you able to help it in anyway? it's definitely in there, what a stubborn baby!
Because i didn't number the eggs i have no way of knowing which egg should hatch when, so i can't really assist. I'll just leave all the eggs until past the due date of the last egg and see what hatches.
kimmikefids
11-01-2008, 10:13 PM
im thinking of u at the moment.....must be hard to be an expectant mother for want of a better phrase....i hope a baby pops out soon so that u aren't as stressed...and poor cooks and bails aren't either!!!
I checked and the due dates were/are 2/11, 4/11, 6/11 and 8/11 - so the 2nd has passed but the others all have a chance (i hope). In typical style i don't have school on the 4th or the 6th, and the 8th is a Saturday. :rolleyes: That means that i get to sit around anxiously waiting.
I've heard no cheeping since yesterday morning.
allen
11-02-2008, 04:58 PM
i would not give up on the first one with my chicks this first hatched 1 day late
It has been cheeping since wednesday though, i don't see how it could survive in the shell like that for so long without hatching.
sweetrsue
11-02-2008, 05:41 PM
Some eggs can hatch as much as 7 days late. Although working at it since Wednesday is a bit much. I'm still keeping a good thought.
I just checked in the nest box and noticed pip marks on one egg. :D I picked it up gently and with it laying in my hand i could feel it trembling and hear little cheeping!! Come on little chickie!
sweetrsue
11-02-2008, 05:59 PM
Wooo Hooo!!! come on Chicky!!!
allen
11-02-2008, 06:00 PM
come on chick you can do it we want to see you
xxxSpikexxx
11-02-2008, 06:40 PM
Yeah :excited: Come on chick get cracken
Solace.
11-02-2008, 07:58 PM
Not long now then, how stressful though!
I opened the egg a little more and the chick kicked itself out. It seems to have a little blood coming from it's umbilical cord (if that's even what it's called on a bird) area - is this normal? It doesn't look too bad so i expect it will stop itself extremely soon. Bailee's sat on it and has been cleaning it off. :love: The little chicky is a young lady as it's eyes are red/plum so it's either a lutino or a cinnamon.
kimmikefids
11-02-2008, 11:43 PM
awwwwwww hooray!!!!!!!! congrats!!
Solace.
11-02-2008, 11:51 PM
That's great congrats!
Maybe the blood is normal and if it's being cleaned off and it's not too bad you'd assume it will be okay. I'm sure Sue or someone else will be able to tell you though, how exciting this must be for you Bailee and Cookie. (and of course the rest of the flock) :excited:
Bailee's cleaned the bubba off and it looks fairly normal. I guess we'll see how she goes over the next several hours. :D I always get anxious waiting for the first feed - even though i know that can last 6-12 hours on the yolk.
Solace.
11-02-2008, 11:57 PM
Bailee is such a great daddy, I'm sure with her parents being the great parents they are she'll be a really healthy chick.
Sorry I know nothing about breeding, but when is their first feed and what do you mean about it being able to last 6-12 hours on the yolk? I find these things interesting. :lol:
allen
11-03-2008, 12:03 AM
normally lutinos are red eyes
Sorry I know nothing about breeding, but when is their first feed and what do you mean about it being able to last 6-12 hours on the yolk? I find these things interesting. :lol:
Before hatching they absorb all the yolk in the egg, this is their nutrition. They can be nourished by this for quite a while after hatching before needing a feed from the parents. :)
And Allen, i've had ino budge chicks before and i think this chick is probably cinnamon as the eyes aren't quite that red, but they are very definitely reddish/plum coloured.
Plukie
11-03-2008, 01:58 AM
Woohoo!!! Granny Bea.......again!!! Fingers crossed that all goes well, I can't wait for the first lot of photos.
Woohoo!!! Granny Bea.......again!!! Fingers crossed that all goes well, I can't wait for the first lot of photos.
I'll take some tomorrow. Cookie's sitting now which means i won't see the baby or eggs till morning when Bailee takes over.
kimmikefids
11-03-2008, 02:16 AM
cant wait to see the pics!!! how exciting for u all...wonder how snickers will take to be a big brother
Danielle
11-03-2008, 04:10 AM
Aww, congratulations!
Chicky is still alive and i *think* fed but it's hard to tell looking down at it. All the fluff hides the crop pretty well. I'll check it once more before i go to bed.
kimmikefids
11-03-2008, 05:12 AM
crossing everything that all goes as smoothly as possible bea......i bet cookie and bailee are loving being mummy and daddy again.....i bet they are great parents....look forward to updates and pics!!!!
Bailee is super attentive to his little girl. I watched him feed her a couple of hours ago. :love: Cookie is busy sitting on the eggs, but Bailee looks like he's settled down for the night with his daughter tucked into his chest feathers.
kimmikefids
11-03-2008, 06:44 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW how adorable......must make ir heart melt to see it.....what a good daddy
Amy1569
11-03-2008, 07:36 AM
That is awesome Bea! Congrats! :clap:
:bday: To baby girl chicky! Can I ask how you can tell it's a girl already?
I love how the males/dad's get involved...it's rare...even in our 'species'!! :p
sweetrsue
11-03-2008, 11:19 AM
Congrats on the new baby! IT'S A GIRL! Do you have any cigars?
huskymom
11-03-2008, 02:46 PM
how adorable!!!!.....
welcome baby girl!!... canīt wait to see piccies
atvchick95
11-03-2008, 02:58 PM
congrats :)
I know with my Lutino Tiel its eyes are just as red as my albino and lutino Budgies
but i never knew cinnamon tiels had plum eyes is that just for plain cinnamon? Because i have Cinnamon Pearls and White Face Cinnamon Pearl and i am pretty sure there eyes are dark brown or black i know they're dark though
sweetrsue
11-03-2008, 03:31 PM
I have a couple with plumb eyes and a few without. I always thought it was the Fallow that had red eyes.
huskymom
11-03-2008, 04:34 PM
if possible could you take closeup pics of the babies eyes.. lately Iīve found nearly impossible to find a pic of a cinny baby eyes.. I know Iīņve seen one and they look more plumbish than red or black...
later on we can confirm if cinny babies do have plum eyes as the pic Iīve seen before and canīt find now.. :p
sweetrsue
11-03-2008, 05:13 PM
i have a couple of pictures of Brownie (Cinnamon) when he was just a few days old.
865 He is either the upper or lower one
866 The largest is a Gray Brownie is the other one looking up
867 Here's a close up of brownie less than a week old.
I've always found that cinnamon babies start with plum eyes which darken as they get older. It's more noticable in a nest with normal babies.
Little chicky made it through the night! I was woken up by feeding time this morning. :p
sweetrsue
11-03-2008, 06:54 PM
Oh that's great! Finally! It must be a huge relief.
tielfan
11-03-2008, 08:12 PM
Congratulations on your new baby!
I always thought it was the Fallow that had red eyes.
Yes, fallows are supposed to have red eyes although I've never seen one in real life.
We just had a discussion about cinnamon eye color on a different board, and it appears that there are individual variations. Some "plums" are more red and others are more dark. When my cinnamon chicks were born I didn't notice any difference in their eyes at all, and thought the chicks were normal grey until they started feathering out. I wasn't expecting any cinnamon chicks because I didn't know their Dad was split cinnamon! All the normal grey chicks were born in the first clutch and all the cinnamons were in the second clutch so I couldn't directly compare them to each other.
Other people reported having cinnamon chicks whose eyes were noticeably red, although I don't think they were as red as lutino eyes. The eyes of my newborn lutino chicks matched their skin color so well that it almost looked like they didn't have eyes.
The plum-colored eyes are supposed to darken when the chicks are about two weeks old, and look like regular dark eyes after that.
kimmikefids
11-03-2008, 09:42 PM
well i guess we will find out once the little lady feathers!!!! its like with anything in life....once u are sure...something will come along and prove it wrong!! i hope she is doing well today Bea
She's been happy, full and wriggly all day. :D Hopefully she'll have a little sibling soon.
Plukie
11-04-2008, 02:41 AM
Awww!!!! That's really great news to wake up to!
kimmikefids
11-04-2008, 02:44 AM
woohooo how exciting....any pics yet??
I did take a photo earlier, but i haven't had a chance to put it on the computer yet. I will get to it though! :D
kimmikefids
11-04-2008, 04:26 AM
lol you better!!! take ur time tho....im sure u are busy with it all
Solace.
11-04-2008, 04:43 AM
o0o I can't wait to see the photo! :excited:
Was woken up by breakfast time in the nest box again this morning. :D Last night she slept snuggled in between Cookie and Bailee who were laying side by side in the nest box. :love:
Here's some pics from yesterday!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/November42008-bubba1d001Custom.jpg
Chicky butt
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/November42008-bubba1d002Custom.jpg
Hugging her eggy siblings
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/November42008-bubba1d003Custom.jpg
Feeding time with daddy
Look up, you must have posted exactly when i put the pics up! :p
And PS: that is too weird that i promised pics at 8:11pm and posted pics at 8:11am...:blink:
sweetrsue
11-04-2008, 04:13 PM
I had just posted another plea for pics. When I hit the post button there they were. Yea I said "It has been 12 hours since we were promised pics"
xxxSpikexxx
11-04-2008, 04:15 PM
What a gorgeous baby girl :love:
sweetrsue
11-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Keep us posted! they grow up soooo fast!
huskymom
11-04-2008, 04:32 PM
how cute!!... awwwwwwwwwww.....
I can see what you meant by discoloured eggs now.. I can see the one in the right has like darker splotches ( maybe the baby wanting out) and the one in the back has like a half side dark... like what you see when a fertile egg is candled
Solace.
11-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Aww how cute! :love:
derek
11-04-2008, 06:33 PM
congrats bea on your little one hope you get many more
Danielle
11-04-2008, 08:15 PM
She's adorable. Keep going strong, little girl!
Amy1569
11-04-2008, 08:27 PM
Question: How can you tell that baby is a girl?
I know coloring (but older) is a 'clue'...as is checking the 'vent'...which I assume Bea, you haven't picked that baby up yet...? Or am I wrong? (would be kinda hard to resist!)
So what's the first sign on a newborn of it being a girl?
sweetrsue
11-04-2008, 09:16 PM
It's the eye color! Red or plumb which makes the baby Cinnamon or Lutino. Which makes the baby a girl. I think it's on page 17
Kirby
11-04-2008, 11:41 PM
Awwww! CONGRATS you 3!!! (Bea, Bails, Cooks) :D
Kirby
which I assume Bea, you haven't picked that baby up yet...? Or am I wrong? (would be kinda hard to resist!)
Chicky-bubba had her first snuggle today, my friend and i both gave her a quick hold. :p Her fluff is just way too cute, and her little wings!! *squeals* :love:
kimmikefids
11-05-2008, 04:11 AM
she is beautiful bea...i cant wait to see her grow.....bailee seems like a wonderful daddy...ty for sharing!!!
*Tiel_Heart*
11-05-2008, 04:28 AM
Awww So cute!!
Any updates??
Hi Bea! Haven't seen you in ages!
Wow, she is so cute, Cookie and Bailee are good parents.
I hope one day when i get my aviary, to breed a clutch or 2, it looks like such fun! I know alot of people who would want a baby tiel aswell hehe.
Amy1569
11-05-2008, 07:52 AM
Thanks Sue...I must have missed that! But if the eye's are closed?......Transparent lids?
You can tell I'm new to the whole Cockatiel thing :)
Bea, how does Bailee and Cookie feel about you holding the chicks? I think you mentioned mama isn't too happy when you are too close to the babes...? Just curious if it's the demeanor of the bird....or are the dads less lenient than the moms? I also assume you are very bonded generally to both...with no babies involved? Does that remain when there are babies? Or kindof put on hold?(per the bird)....and start up again when the babies are bigger?
Just wondering how that works......I've had experience with dogs and puppies.....and know how that goes....so just curious...
Danielle
11-05-2008, 08:42 AM
There are plenty of overzealous daddies who are far more protective than the mums.
I think it has a lot to do the bond the person has with the bird and how much of a people bird the bird in question is.
sweetrsue
11-05-2008, 10:16 AM
I love the way you can see their little thumbs when they are that little!
atvchick95
11-05-2008, 12:21 PM
has any one told Mr. Snickers he's a big brother?? LOL
Cant wait to see her grow up to be adorably cute like her brother :d
sweetrsue
11-05-2008, 12:33 PM
Yes the eyelids are thin enough that you can see the difference!
Kfontan
11-05-2008, 12:55 PM
Congratulations on Chicky-Bubba!!
It looks like Bailee and Cookie are doing an excellent jub!
Any more peeping?
elfhome
11-05-2008, 01:55 PM
More pictures more pictures more picture! We want more pictures!
Oh, and congrads! :D
huskymom
11-05-2008, 02:58 PM
any news on new bubs?
No new chicky bubba's yet, i haven't actually checked the nest box this morning though. Chicky 1 is doing great, i heard her having brekky this morning and she was complaining about something at another time too.
Zoe really hates that there's something interesting in the nest box. The other night her and the baby were having a noise competition. The baby would cheep, Zoe would growl, baby cheep, Zoe growl... This was when everyone was supposed to be asleep and they were covered too. Can't wait to see what Zoe thinks when i'm handrearing babies. :p
Bea, how does Bailee and Cookie feel about you holding the chicks? I think you mentioned mama isn't too happy when you are too close to the babes...? Just curious if it's the demeanor of the bird....or are the dads less lenient than the moms? I also assume you are very bonded generally to both...with no babies involved? Does that remain when there are babies? Or kindof put on hold?(per the bird)....and start up again when the babies are bigger?
Bailee and Cookie are both pets before they're breeders, so i am very bonded to both of them and them to me. When they're breeding i have to be mindful that they'll be protective of their nest and eggs, but otherwise both still get time out of the cage (when the other is on the eggs) and both still crave kisses and cuddles from me.
I observed yesterday that when i alone looked in the nest box Bailee would tweet and look up at me, and Cookie would shoot me a filthy look, but when my friend had a peek they would both fluff up, sway and hiss. So i guess they're actually pretty ok with me peeking, lol. :p They don't seem to mind me holding the baby once i get it out, they don't like me getting it out though. Here's a photo from their last time breeding that shows just how much they don't mind me joining in:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/May052008-snickers26days015Custom.jpg
sweetrsue
11-05-2008, 05:37 PM
What a good daddy!
Amy1569
11-06-2008, 08:25 AM
That is awesome....!
So in order for you to get a baby out....(you said they don't care for you doing that)..do you have to wait until they are out of the nest box? (if they do that while they are that young..I know you said they take turns...)or a matter of a light 'shooing' away to pick up the baby?
Solace.
11-06-2008, 04:51 PM
Hpefully she'll have some siblings soon. :D When's the next due to hatch?
huskymom
11-06-2008, 06:14 PM
I think she said the second had passed.. if baby hatched onthe 3rd... there shouldīve been one on the 5th and another one tomorrow??... so the 5th passed... am I right?... or can it still make it... and the 7th is next??... Iīm not sure if this works just as eggs being layed...
hoping for more siblings.... or is this going to be a one girly clutch only.. hmm...
That is awesome....!
So in order for you to get a baby out....(you said they don't care for you doing that)..do you have to wait until they are out of the nest box? (if they do that while they are that young..I know you said they take turns...)or a matter of a light 'shooing' away to pick up the baby?
I wait till Bailee's on duty then tap on the lid, he comes out of the nest box then. Silly boy. :p
The eggs were due on the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th of November. So the first egg was a dud, the second is the one that is thriving in the nest box (i think if i hadn't of interfered she'd have hatched on the due date), the third has now passed and we're waiting on the fourth which is due tomorrow.
kimmikefids
11-07-2008, 06:32 AM
i'm crossing my fingers for u Bea!!!
Amy1569
11-07-2008, 08:01 AM
Nature sure is something isnt it?
What makes 1 egg hatch ...and 2 others not? Does that 3rd one still have a chance? How far past the 'due date' can an egg go that it would still be viable? I'm assuming not long....and you said there hasn't been any chirping that you've heard...so that's not a good sign I assume.....
Best of luck to baby number 4!! Keeping fingers crossed....
allen
11-07-2008, 08:06 AM
don,t forget bea cookie is still a young mom so she is fairly new to this ater all this is her 2nd time
Amy1569
11-07-2008, 09:10 AM
Oh speaking of hatching..I just noticed my status....I'm hatching!! lol
sweetrsue
11-07-2008, 09:50 AM
Aren't you cute Amy!...Come on now...You can do it!
huskymom
11-07-2008, 01:24 PM
when Jack/Maui had eggs... you know two looked like your discoloured one... one had a mush (you have seen those pics) and other one had a dead baby....
sad but I think egg one and 3 might have been like that.... letīs cross fingers for number 4
Amy1569
11-07-2008, 01:49 PM
Peep...Peep...
;) Thanks sue!
Curiousity along with the lack of any cheeping or pip marks got the best of me and i opened the three remaining eggs. They were all dead in shell but they looked fully developed so i'm not entirely sure what happened. What i might do is let Cookie and Bailee double clutch (seeing as i'll be handraising this bub for them), and if we have another failed clutch it'll be apparent that Cookie and Bailee aren't good breeders.
Here's a link to a pic of the three D.I.S. bubs, if anyone was interested to see.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/birdybea/Tiels%20Breeding%20Pics/November82008-disbabies.jpg
Danielle
11-07-2008, 10:45 PM
I'm sorry that they didn't make it. Do you think that means the little girl was the one doing all the cheeping before she hatched?
sweetrsue
11-07-2008, 10:49 PM
It could just be the lack of experience. Many birds do better with time. I had a pair that hatched no babies out the first 2 X they tried but the 3rd time was a charm...they hatched all 5.
I'm sorry that they didn't make it. Do you think that means the little girl was the one doing all the cheeping before she hatched?
No, i would say that at least one of the other babies gave hatching a good try before dying in the shell.
atvchick95
11-07-2008, 11:15 PM
aww Sorry bea
my one pair Jack and Jill only had one baby make it (this was their 1st time breeding for me I'm not sure if they bred for any one else though ) and they laid 5 eggs the 1st time, their little one was born the rest were all dead in the shell 2nd round all were dead in the shell but one, it was just liquid
I've only had one pair out of my 5 Pairs (one pair is 2 different hen same male) have all their eggs hatch both clutches
the rest were either liquid or dead in the shell of what didn't hatch
I think next time i'll also number the eggs so that if need be i can help them out.
sweetrsue
11-07-2008, 11:54 PM
That picture was very sad. How awful. They'll do better next time,
Solace.
11-08-2008, 03:00 AM
So sorry to hear about the other 3 Bea. :( It's awful when things like that happen.
But I'm sure Snickers will love having a baby sister. :D
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