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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Please someone help!!!!!!

My cocktiel might have just got salminilla, what can i do now! Can the vet do anthing? Is it curable at all? Did I just cause the death of my bird????

Please someone help!
~half-moon & Solo
 
#3 ·
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that! I grew up with a desert tortoise from when I was about 5 to when I was 15. Good to know. I wouldn't worry, it was minor contact and hopefully your bird has a good immune system and will be ok. I hope so.
 
#4 ·
Ive been doing research like crazy.

I live in NewYork and its snowing like crazy do i cant go out...plus the only aviary vet that lives around us only does appointments on tuesdays and next tuesday is New Years so the hospital is closed. So basically i cant bring him to the vet for 2 weeks. I have called a vet and he said that my russian tortoise that is full grown and 13 years old shouldnt carry salminella. That Salminella is moatlt just in baby or smaller tortoises. So he shouldnt have got anything. He said watch out for symptons but dont worry.

Im still worried... and his poop seems a lot more watery but there is no blood in it....what can I do? Im terrified!


Is he gonna be okay?
~half-moon & Solo
 
#5 · (Edited)
Some normal vets will see birds, I would be ringing around and asking.

eta: I am not sure what avian vet you see, but there are quite a few in NY is seems, here is a list of them:

Amherst:

Alexandra Adamcak - Board Certified Avian Vet

3921 Main St., Amherst, NY 14226 - Tel. (716) 832-2800

Bedford Hills:

Laurie Hess, DVM, Diplomate ABVP (Avian) - Board Certified in Avian Medicine

Veterinary Center for Birds & Exotics, 709 Bedford Road, Bedford Hills, New York 10507; (914) 864-1414; www.avianexoticsvet.com

Brooklyn:

Dr. Aaron Lochak; Specializes in birds and reptiles

1902 Avenue O, Brooklyn, NY 11230 - Tel. (718) 376-5377

Forest Hills:

Dr. Stephen Wyler, Trylon Vet Care

98-83 Queens Blvd, Forest Hills, NY 11375 - Tel. ( 718) 275-1800

Jara & Ben wrote: "Dr. Wyler is superb. Caring, patient, and kind, he provided excellent care to my four parrots for the five years I lived in NYC, including saving the life of my Eclectus. He is outstanding and his knowledge base is unparalled"

Franklin Square:

A&A Veterinary Hospital Inc., Board Certified Avian Veterinarian available

414 Franklin Avenue, Franklin Square, NY 11010 - Tel: 516-437-7222

Glen Head:

Jeffrey Krasnoff D.V.M., M.S. - Brookville Animal Hospital

691 Glen Cove Road, Glen Head, NY 11545 - Tel. (516) 674-3322

Greenvale:

Dr. Linda Pesek, AVBP, Board Certified Avian Veterinarian - Roslyn Greenvale Merrick Veterinary Group

1 Northern Blvd., Greenvale 11548 - Tel: 516-621-4010

Hempstead:

Simon Starkey BVSc, PhD, D.ABVP(Avian). Board Certified in Avian Practice - Animal Medical Hospital and Bird Clinic

779 Peninsula Blvd., Hempstead, NY 11550 - Tel. 516-483-7007

Hopewell Junction:

Dr. Les J. Scherr - Avian Vet

Route E#52 and Taconic Parkway, Hopewell Junction, NY 12533 - Tel. (914) 221-2911

Horseheads:

Dr. Kathy Hughes - Lake Road Animal Hospital

3065 Lake Road, Horseheads, NY 14845 - Tel. (607) 733-6503

Huntington:

Dr. Heidi Hoefer, ABVP Avian Specialist - Island Exotic Veterinary Care - www.HeidiHoefer.com

591 East Jericho Turnpike Huntington, NY 11746 - Tel. (631) 424-0300

West Hills Animal Hospital

800 West Jericho Turnpike, Huntington, NY 11743 - Tel. (631) 351-6116 / (631) 271-2359 (Voice Mail)

Lancaster:

Dr Laura Wade DVM Dipl ABVP - Specialized Care for Avian & Exotic Pets

5915 Broadway, Lancaster NY 14086. 716-651-0144 buffalobirdnerd.com

Latham:

Dr. Joy Lucas - Shaker Veterinary Hospital

223 Maxwell Rd., Latham, NY 12110 - Tel. (518) 458-9669

Little Neck:

Dr. Haimann, Avian Vet - Animal House Calls of Queens

47-41 Little Neck Parkway, Little Neck, NY 11362 - Tel. (718) 631-1396

Liverpool:

Hazel Alison M D.V.M. - Liverpool Animal Health Center LLP

8205 Oswego Road, Liverpool, NY 13090 - Tel. (315) 622-2882

Menands:

Dr. Cate Adsit, Menands Veterinary Hospital

315 Broadway, Menands NY 12204 - Tel. (518) 463-0600

Monroe:

Dr. Lonnie H. Kasman - Monroe Animal Hospital

427 Rt. 17M, Monroe, NY 10950 - Tel. (845) 782-8621

Newburgh:

Dr. Dasaro - Newburgh Veterinary Hospital

1716 Route 300, Newburgh, NY - Tel. (845) 564-2660

Dr. Donald Factor - West End Veterinary

41 Fullerton Ave., Newburgh, NY 12550 - Tel: (845) 565-0804

New York City:

The Center for Avian and Exotic Medicine
Anthony Pilny, DVM, Diplomate ABVP (Avian)
Cynthia J. Brown, DVM, Diplomate ABVP (Avian)
Alix Wilson, DVM

562 Columbus Ave. New York, NY 10024 - url: www.avianandexoticvets.com

Shachar Malka, DVM, Dipl ABVP (Avian) Avian & Exotics Medicine and Surgery

Humane Society of New York, 306 East 59th Street New York, NY 10022 - Tel. 212.752.4842 fax 212.752.2803 website: http://www.birdexoticsvet.com/ http://www.exoticsvetmed.com Email:ExoticPetDr@gmail.com

Katherine Quesenberry, DVM, MPH Diplomate, ABVP (Avian Practice)

The Animal Medical Center 510 E. 62nd St NY, NY 10065 Appts: 212-838-8100

Dr. Howard Cohen, DMV - Urban Vets

163 E 10th St. & Ave C, New York City, NY 10009 - Tel. (212) 213-1547

Karen Cantor, D.V.M. - Westside Veterinary Center

220 West 83rd Street, New York, NY 10024 - Tel. (212) 580-1800

Patchogue:

Dr. Deidre M. Hansen - Paumanok Veterinary Hospital

639 Route 112, Patchogue, NY 11772 - Tel. (631) 475-1312

Plainview:

Robert A. Monaco D.V.M. - Old Country Animal Clinic

669 Old Country Road, Plainview, NY 11803 - Tel. (516) 938-7218

Rochester:

Dr. Balonek - East Ridge Animal Hospital

60 Dubelbeiess Lane, Rochester, NY 14622 - Tel. (585) 467-2120

Rye:

Dr. John Pisciotta - Rye Harrison Animal Hospital - www.rhvh.com

170 North Street, Rye, N.Y. 10580 - Tel. (914) 921-2000

Southold and Shelter Island:

Dr. Robert Pisciotta DMV - North Fork Animal Hospital, Southold and Shelter Island, NY

Staten Island:

Dr. Irwin Ruderman - Member of the Association of Avian Veterinarians (AAV) plus additional knowledge of holistic medicine enhance his value as an avian vet - an excellent choice

640 Willowbrook Rd., Staten Island, NY 10314 - Tel. (718) 698-1400

Voorheesville:

Dr Michael McCarthy - http://thevillageanimalclinic.com

70 School Rd Voorheesville, NY 12186 518-765-0111 drmccarthy@thevillageanimalclinic.com

Westbury:

Linda Pesek, D.V.M. - Westbury Animal Hospital

319 Union Avenue, Westbury, NY - Tel. (516) 333-1123

West Islip:

Dr. Elisabeth Simone-Freilicher, Board Certified Avian Specialist - Veterinary Medical Center - 24-Hour Emergency Service

75 Sunrise Highway, West Islip, NY 11795 - Tel. (631) 587-0800

Whitestone:

Simon Starkey BVSc, PhD, D.ABVP(Avian). Board Certified in Avian Practice - Whitestone Vet Care

22-22 154th St., Whitestone, NY 11357- Tel. :718-888-0400
I am sure out of all these, one will be able to see your Cockatiel and get him/her antibiotics, it is important that you get onto this quickly, the sooner the better for the sake of your Cockatiels health.
 
#7 ·
To be fair (and it's terrible practice, I know...) I hardly ever remember to wash my hands after handling my tortoise/snakes/lizards... And I haven't ever had salmonella! :)
 
#9 ·
There are two threads on the same topic (this one and the one called "touched tortoise food"). It might be helpful if the mods combined the threads so all the advice is in the same place.

You may be able to find an emergency vet who can help you, although there's nothing that can be done until the weather clears up enough to travel. At the very least, I would recommend talking to another vet on the phone about the risks. I have no idea whether the first vet is correct or not.
 
#10 ·
Woah! Thats a great list!
I talked to my mom and for tonight there is no one we can call because its to late. She also said most places are closed sunday so we cant go then....
Monday is the closest we can do...

Thanks everyone!
And @teilfan the 'touched tortoise food' thread was also mne but no one was responding to it so i started another

I guesss i just have to wait and see..

Hoping for the best,
~half-moon & Solo
 
#13 ·
I have no idea whether it's OK or not. If the first vet you talked to was correct there shouldn't be a problem. But vets do make mistakes sometimes and salmonella is deadly, so I would recommend that you at least talk to another vet or a tortoise expert or something to get additional confirmation.
 
#14 ·
Okay, i can do that. When i talked to the vet on the phone it wasn't my usual vet... My usual avirary vet was actually on you list he is Dr. Scherr, but he is actaully my tortoise vet and aviary vet! So he would be the best person to twlk to becasue he knows about both! Im deffinatley going to talk to him as soon as I can!

Thank you!!
~half-moon & Solo
 
#20 ·
Salmonella is curable if in early stages, there are much worse things than that. it is curable with antibiotics but the bird should take the antibiotics so a vet is necessary. We encounter the same problem at the moment, have taken medication already..
Wish you the best and keep us updated.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Hello. My sister has turtles and BabyMoo hangs around them all of the time. They all 3 see the same vet and he knows that they at times stay in the same room and even play together. It has never been a problem but her turtles only eat veggies. Isn't the turtle's diet what causes the Salmonella? BabyMoo has even played with them before. I wonder if I shouldn't let her play with them anymore.
 
#22 ·
i do know for sure that aquatic turtles carry salmonella, but not every individual, just a high percentage of them do. i have also heard that most other reptiles can carry it as well, from turtles to snakes to lizards... and ducks and chickens carry it as well. i know first hand turtles carry it, we had a tornado warning a few years back when i owned turtles. i took cover with all my pets, but forgot to wash my hands after putting my turtles in a smaller tank to protect them.. i was sick badly the next day! ("tornado" ended up being a downburst that demolished a local campground). it was not fun, but i knew then that my two turtles were individuals who carried the bacteria. i would always recommend washing hands before and after handing the tortoise :)

so there is that chance that your tortoise could carry salmonella naturally, i would think you might feel safe having the bird checked at the vet to be safe, but let's all have our fingers crossed that there is no contamination, i don't think it is a very high risk, but it is a risk nonetheless and it would be a good idea to be safe and have the bird tested for it :)
 
#23 ·
Its my understanding that all retiles have salmonella. My daughter had an iguanna and that's what the vet told us and it doesn't bother them.

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#24 ·
Thanks everyone! This is all very useful! I'm not to worried that more tortoise has it because ive had him for 5 years and nothing ever seemed to happen to me. Im still taking Solo to the vet of course, as soon as possible, but the soonest will most likely be next tuesday =(.
Solo shows no sign of sickness. His weight is the same, his pooh is the same, hes acting and eating the same. The only thing is he is fluffed up quite a bit- which worries me. Though he is still getting over his last sickness which was a bacterial infection of spyrokeats in his throat that the vet said he was born with. So I don't know if that is why he is fluffing his feathers or not...

Thanks for all the advice!
~half-moon & Solo :tiel3:
 
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