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Old 05-06-2017, 04:49 AM
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I have a very good Fallow female and a good Cinnamon Lutino male. Is it OK to pair them? What will be likely colour of offspring?
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No, it's not OK to pair them. Cinnamon should never be mixed with the rare melanin-altering mutations because it makes a mess of the gene pool. You or someone else later down the line ends up having to guess what mutations the descendants have, and probably making a lot of mistakes.

If you did pair these two, you'd get cinnamon lutino girls split to fallow and grey boys split to cinnamon lutino and fallow.

A bird that is visual for both cinnamon and fallow looks a lot like a lutino - the combination of these two mutations messes up the melanin so badly that it basically becomes invisible. It's not a good combination, and if lutino-looking birds are wanted the best way to get them is to breed lutinos.
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Thanks for very educative reply. I am not very experienced but a few "experienced" fanciers who have visited my birds normally do not get agree whether the birds are cinnamon lutino or fallow. Different "EXPERTS' . Some call same bird as Cinnamon lutino and some call it Fallow. I understand there is very little difference but is there any guide to find this. I have browsed a couple of sites and seen photos but I do not find it very helpful.
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It can be difficult to tell the difference. If the bird is a male, you can pair him with a normal grey hen and see what color the babies are. If all the daughters are cinnamon lutino then you know that he is cinnamon lutino not fallow. You might not be able to see the cinnamon wash until they are older, but the lutino mutation will be obvious as soon as they hatch. If all the babies are normal grey then he must be fallow.

To find out what mutation a hen has, you could pair her with a good-quality lutino male who doesn't have the cinnamon gene. If all the babies are lutino then you know that she is cinnamon lutino. If the daughters are lutino but the sons are grey, then the hen must be fallow not cinnamon lutino. In this case all the babies will be split to fallow, but by choosing the male carefully you have avoided introducing the cinnamon gene into the line.
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