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Old 05-02-2017, 10:12 PM
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I bought my cockatiels from a breeder and was wondering what everyone's opinion on what the mutations is? The 2nd pic is of him a year ago and the other 2 were taken today..

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Old 05-02-2017, 11:33 PM
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My guess would be whiteface recessive silver. RS is called pale fallow in Europe.

Bronze fallow is another possibility (called just plain fallow in the US). But to me this bird looks pale grey rather than pale brown, which is why I'm guessing RS.
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:17 AM
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Ok I was told that it was a RS White face and just wanted to make sure.. I have a couple babies that are just 2 weeks old and one was born with red eyes.. Not sure how that happens when the female is a normal white face..
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The cock may be split lutino, or less likely the hen is split RS
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The three red-eye mutations are recessive silver, fallow, and lutino. If the daddy is split to lutino he could have lutino daughters. Or if mom is split to RS they could have RS babies. Fallow is theoretically possible if both are split, but that seems pretty unlikely.

The eyes look just a little bit dark to me though. Maybe cinnamon instead of a true red eye mutation? We'll know more when the chick feathers out. If dad is split to cinnamon he could have cinnamon daughters.
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She told me there was cinnamon and recessive silver in the line of my male.. Luckys Parents are a wf male and a grey pied female.. Obviously she has to be split to WF to get him... From what I have read anyway... Lucky also has a white patch on the back of his neck so I assume that is the pied? Here is a pic of the chic at a day old and one I took today... And also one of the other baby...
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The cock may be split lutino, or less likely the hen is split RS
If Lucky is split to lutino then that would make the chic a whiteface lutino and be all white? albino even though there is no such thing... lol Not sure about that either..
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I suspect that your red-eyed chick is a whiteface lutino girl. Her primary pinfeathers are just starting to show and so far it looks like they are all white, but it's too soon to be sure. Ordinary innamon eyes would look darker at this age so I don't think she's cinnamon, unless she's a cinnamon lutino. Wait a few days and she'll have enough feather growth to be sure of whether she's WFL.

Albino and whiteface lutino are the same thing. Most breeders prefer the term whiteface lutino over albino, since it describes the bird's genetic makeup. Albino describes the appearance not the genes. With mammals, the appearance and the gene are the same thing since they have only one color pigment to get rid of. But with parrots there are two pigments, and it takes two mutations to get rid of both of them.
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P.S. Yes, the white patch on the back of the male's head is a sign of a pied split. If the hen is also split pied you can get visual pied babies.
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