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Old 02-22-2017, 03:23 AM
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hi, i'm trying to stop breeding behaviour, need some help. here's the background..

i started with 1 female, then added a 2nd male, then a 3rd male.
the 2 males will occasionally fight.. but not with the female.. i never had any issues with mating behaviours before.

couple days ago, i got my 4th cockatiel.. both the males were very friendly with the new bird. at first my female seemed just normal, not overly friendly or anything like that.. then this morning i noticed she did the high tail against the cage and the new 4th cockatiel was climbing on top of her. she never did that with my other 2 males. so i separated the 4th from them this morning.

this afternoon, i put all 4 of them back together again.. then within the hour, the same thing.. female bending low with tail high, and the 4th cockatiel trying to climb on top of my female.

the 4th cockatiel, i don't even know if its male or female, since my other 2 males are so friendly with it, doing the grooming thing, and favours returned by the new cockatiel.

if its just 2 females fooling around, then its not so bad, cos i don't want her laying any eggs. is there any way to tell? the bands are still there under the tail.

i checked today about how to discourage breeding, and realised that i was giving them too much greens the last couple days, and exposed them to direct sunlight, which was discouraged.

so my question is:
should i return the new 4th cockatiel? or is there any way to keep it since the 4th one is so popular with the 2 males.. and of course the 1st female too

any help is appreciated. really undecided, not sure what i should do.
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:32 AM
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just saw this thread about how to discourage breeding.. very informative.. thanks

http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=32330

still not sure if i should just return the 4th cockatiel though.. any advice would be good

the female is the one on the right of the 3.. and the new one is alone, with pic of the bands below
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:07 AM
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Hi , I am no expert but I think the one alone is a female as it looks very similar to my girl with the same face colour and tail..
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Your new one is a pied isn't it?
If so, it will be very hard (if not impossible) to tell whether it's a male or female.


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Old 02-22-2017, 08:21 AM
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The new one looks male to me.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:28 AM
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Hi , I am no expert but I think the one alone is a female as it looks very similar to my girl with the same face colour and tail..
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Your new one is a pied isn't it?
If so, it will be very hard (if not impossible) to tell whether it's a male or female.
thanks.. if the pied was female would be better.. but 2 females, one on top of the other.. its not common or is it?

and those 2 males just stand there looking and not doing anything..

and my original female just not interested in those 2 males, which was good for me.. until this 4th one came along..

and if my female wanted to mate, at least do it with one of the white faced pearls.. but no, just had to be the pied.. sheesh, what's going on?
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The new one looks male to me.
thanks.. but apparently my 2 males like preening with this new one.. kinda weird
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Regardless of gender, tiels do mate for fun. And two of the same sex will mate. This is actually NOT a good thing, as they can stimulate each other to lay eggs and then you have two hens laying instead of one. Twice the chance of complications.

Being a pied, it's impossible to tell gender visually, you will have to do it by behavior, which can take a while to come out. How your other birds treat the new bird won't really give an indication to gender either. You could do a DNA test, which will get you answers a lot quicker.
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i checked today about how to discourage breeding, and realised that i was giving them too much greens the last couple days, and exposed them to direct sunlight, which was discouraged.
I'm not sure where you got this advice but it's wrong. Greens and sunlight are important for nutritional reasons, so please keep up what you're doing with those. When it comes to breeding triggers, it's the abundance of food that's relevant and there's no indication that the type of food matters. When it comes to sunlight, the only thing that matters is the apparent day length.

I have an addendum to my hormone control article with science geekery about breeding triggers. You can read it here: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.co...ones.html#geek Day length is a primary breeding trigger and food abundance is a secondary trigger.
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Regardless of gender, tiels do mate for fun. And two of the same sex will mate. This is actually NOT a good thing, as they can stimulate each other to lay eggs and then you have two hens laying instead of one. Twice the chance of complications.

Being a pied, it's impossible to tell gender visually, you will have to do it by behavior, which can take a while to come out. How your other birds treat the new bird won't really give an indication to gender either. You could do a DNA test, which will get you answers a lot quicker.
thanks.. maybe just return it, save me some headache.. will give it a couple more days.. but they all get along so well with the new one.. so still not sure what i should do.. hmmm
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