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Old 08-24-2012, 10:01 PM
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Thank you for your post, lilasmom. It is good to know that people are reading this sticky. It was made back in 2010 and hasn't been active for some time now so I brought it back up in the list by posting in it.

The user FwoGiZ has not been active since February of 2011, but your statement can go towards anyone else who feels the same as he did about wildlife predators. Notice the video that follows..a hawk swooped down and tried to kill a cockatoo during a zoo's presentation. Yes, the hawk was a part of the zoo, BUT it proves how keen their eyesight is and that they will prey on birds (and won't let go of people, apparently). And for people who think wildlife is not present in their area..wildlife stays hidden so you likely don't see any of the predators lurking in your area, but that is why they are called "wild."
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:22 PM
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I am an avid bird watcher, especially for birds of prey. i live in a large city, for my area. I see evidence of birds that most people miss. i know what to look for. MANY people do not realize that hawks lurk right outside their doors, preying upon the little sparrows and robins in their front yards!

For those living in north america, i can briefly give a good list of every urban and suburban bird of prey or birds of interest that would no doubt attack a cockatiel. I will provide any pictures I have on hand, provide links to others, and provide links proving that they are indeed in cities!


Sharp Shinned Hawk
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/s...hinned_hawk/id



Found in cities and towns very frequently, i live in a city and the photo above was taken in the heart of my city. These birds are experts at catching birds, even in flight. They are capable of taking down birds as big as they are, which includes cockatiels, who are only slightly smaller than the females, and just as large as the males! They are also fairly bold and will often purposely chase small birds into windows for easy prey. They stalk bird feeders frequently as well. They are ambush predators and will not be seen often until too late.
This photo shows how small male sharpies are. This is a photo of one i had adopted as part of a conservation program, this guy was released into the wild after being caught and banded. He had made a kill prior to being caught! he is capable of taking a tiel!


This is my husband with his adopted female, notice much larger size, they would easily not think twice about grabbing a tiel!


Cooper's Hawk
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Coopers_Hawk/id



Larger relative of the sharp shinned hawk. Males of this species are about the same size as the female sharpies. Females of this species are large. They are fully capable of taking cockatiels and birds up to the size of sun conures. They lurk often in city parks and backyards. They are known to drown their prey and even chase it on foot! they are adaptive and like the sharpie, they are ambush predators. They are an accipiter hawk, meaning true hawk, and like true hawks they hunt specifically birds.


Merlin
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/merlin/id





A small falcon, about the size of a smaller male sharpie. This bird is one that feeds almost exclusively on birds. It has become a regular city bird and is notorious among hawk watchers for disappearing nearly as soon as it is sighted as it is fast and direct. Females (the one in the above photo that i was holding many years ago, my first adopted raptor) are much larger than males and are capable of taking down a tiel. Notice in the link, one of the photos of the bird is a female merlin with a pigeon, which is the same size as the falcon. you can see how easy it would be for a tiel to fall victim.



American Kestrel
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/American_Kestrel/id





Not as likely to attack or hunt large birds, mostly song birds, it's still a city falcon and one to be cautious about. Females are more of a danger.



Peregrine Falcon
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Peregrine_Falcon/id

sorry no personal photos of mine

This is a famous one for living in cities with skyscrapers. It nests in cities and takes birds as large as ducks. This bird can very well attack a cockatiel, no doubt, but you are more likely to see a cooper's or sharpie or merlin than a peregrine.



Red Tailed Hawk

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-tailed_Hawk/id



This is a large hawk, part of the buteo family of hawks. These hawks tend to soar in circles high in the sky and are defined by long broad wings, unlike the accipiters who have short broad wings for flying between trees and hedges. Red tails are adaptive hunters who can hover, kite (fly stationary into the wind), perch hunt, and chase down their prey and even stoop on their prey like peregrines. They are often found in cities and have been known to hunt birds.


Red Shouldered Hawk
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/R...ldered_Hawk/id

(no photo sorry)

This is another buteo, and it's more common in suburbs down near Florida and the south-eastern states. It is found elsewhere in North America, but is more of a forest bird. This bird has been known to be an adaptive and skilled hunter and it should be given caution.



American Crow

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/American_Crow/id

Sorry no personal photo

This bird isnt a bird of prey, but it is very famous for its intelligence and boldness. It has been very well known to attack birds and has been known to attack cockatiels and caged birds.



Be warned, if it isnt escape you want to worry about, its predators... Don't be fooled into thinking you are safe for living in a city!
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i forgot to add... here is a lovely website showing a pair of red tailed hawks who nest in the middle of New York City. If they can live and hunt there, they can do it from anywhere


http://www.palemale.com/

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http://palemale-store.stores.yahoo.net/2012.html
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http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=14984 THIS...we had a member several years ago, right after I joined, that watched her tiel get torn apart by a hawk. So don't tell us it doesn't happen.
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WARNING: this video might be scary for some viewers and i do not recommend anyone trying this! the purpose of this video is to show that hawks mean business and are not afraid to tackle birds that are bigger than them!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikDpYwDKQ_A

a show bird, but look at the size difference between the too and the hawk... they dont mess around! this is a well fed hawk, so think what a hungry predator could do. they are bold.


ive personally been dive bombed by a sharp shinned hawk. it came close enough to touch the top of my head. i didnt have my birds with me, but they are BOLD birds. and a sharpie is a small accipiter hawk in north america, measuring only 12" long.
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To all forum members: don't allow any one else's examples allow you to develop the confidence needed to fuel rash decisions about taking your birds out unharnessed or uncaged.

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I am going to add that no matter how bonded you think your bird is to you if something were to happen they may not be able to get back to you. Or birds can get ahold of them. In the grand scheme of things it really is not worth it to take tgat risk.

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So the mods and I decided to close and clean up this sticky. While there were a lot of good stories in here it was getting a little out of hand. If you guys still want to share stories like this we can open a separate thread for you to do so. Happy posting!!
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